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Sunday, July 26, 2026

AR-SP52 Button Gwinnett, with Mark Di Vincenzo

Our July Round Table welcomed our special guest, Mark Di Vincenzo, author of, Button Gwinnett: America’s Accidental Founding Father.  Below is a summary of our discussion.

Di Vincenzo’s interest in Gwinnett began during a walking tour in Savannah, where a guide noted that Gwinnett’s burial place in a local cemetery was a mystery. Di Vincenzo discovered that the only existing full-length biography of Gwinnett, published in 1926 by Charles Francis Jenkins, portrayed him as a true patriot—an image Di Vincenzo’s research suggested was inaccurate. Because the historical record for Gwinnett is "skimpy," Di Vincenzo aimed to provide a more nuanced, thorough, and updated account of a man who is primarily remembered today for having one of the most valuable signatures in American history.

The Value of the Signature

A major part of Gwinnett’s modern legacy is the rarity of his signature. Although he held several notable positions—including merchant, planter, state legislator, Speaker of the House in Georgia, and briefly, Governor—only 51 of his signatures are known to exist. This scarcity has made his autograph highly sought after by collectors who aim to own the signatures of all 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence. Di Vincenzo notes that since the 1910s and 1920s, a Gwinnett signature has often cost more than a painting by Claude Monet. Recent sales have reached figures between $1.2 million and $1.4 million.

Early Life in England

Button Gwinnett was born in 1735 in Down Hatherley, Gloucestershire, a "wool town" near the Welsh border. His father was a vicar, and the family was established enough that Gwinnett did not have to work in the local wool mills. However, his parents did not consider him "college material," unlike his older brother, which Di Vincenzo argues set him on an unstable financial path for the rest of his life. Instead of higher education, Gwinnett was placed in several apprenticeships: first with an uncle who was a grocer in Bristol, and later with an ironmonger in Wolverhampton.

It was in Wolverhampton that he met his wife, Ann, whom their marriage certificate interestingly listed as a "22-year-old spinster"—a term used at the time for any unmarried woman of that age. While some historical records suggested Ann brought a massive dowry of £10,000 (millions in today’s currency), Di Vincenzo expresses doubt about this amount, noting that Gwinnett was "always scrambling for money" and lacked the business acumen to maintain wealth. Gwinnett’s primary motivation throughout his early adulthood was to prove to his parents that he could succeed without the education they had denied him.

Migration to Georgia and the "Social Experiment"

Gwinnett’s business ventures as a transatlantic trader eventually failed, leading him to move to Savannah, Georgia, in 1765. At the time, Georgia was a relatively new and unique colony, established as a "social experiment". Parliament had initially banned slavery in Georgia, intending for white settlers to perform all labor, including clearing forests and planting crops. By the time Gwinnett arrived, this experiment was ending, as many settlers believed they could not compete with the rice-growing economy of South Carolina without enslaved labor.

The end of the Seven Years’ War also made Georgia more attractive to immigrants like Gwinnett. The colony had previously been a dangerous "no man's land" between British South Carolina and Spanish Florida, but with Florida becoming British, the threat of Spanish invasion evaporated. To encourage growth, the Georgia government gave away large tracts of land on the condition that owners developed it. Gwinnett eventually acquired 11,000 acres, which granted him the social status and respect necessary to hold local offices, such as commissioner of the waterways and justice of the peace. Despite his status as a large landowner, he remained financially unsuccessful, eventually losing his land and home to creditors, though he still owned 61 slaves at the time of his death.

The "Accidental" Revolutionary

One of Di Vincenzo’s most striking claims is that Gwinnett had no initial interest in the independence movement or public service. Unlike figures such as Samuel Adams, who were driven by ideology, Gwinnett was "obsessed with making money". His entry into politics was largely motivated by a need for a steady paycheck.

In 1775, Georgia’s political situation was chaotic. The colony was viewed as cozy with England, even sending a loyalist minister, John Zubly, to the Second Continental Congress. Under pressure to send a pro-independence delegation in 1776, Georgia leaders sought candidates. Gwinnett’s primary goal at the time was to become a colonel in the Georgia militia, a position with a reliable salary. However, because he had zero military experience, he was rejected for the post in favor of Lachlan McIntosh, a man with significant military background. As a "consolation prize," Gwinnett was sent to Philadelphia as a delegate to Congress, provided he promised to vote for independence.

Gwinnett arrived in Philadelphia on May 20, 1776, and met John Adams. Adams knew Gwinnett’s companion, Lyman Hall, was a patriot, but he was unfamiliar with Gwinnett and was primarily concerned with whether Gwinnett would support the vote for independence. Gwinnett stayed in Philadelphia for only ten weeks. He signed the Declaration on August 2, 1776, and left the city that very same day.

Rise to Power in Georgia

Gwinnett rushed back to Savannah to take credit for a $60,000 congressional allocation for Georgia’s defense, despite having no clear connection to the funding. This made him a "hometown hero" and facilitated his rapid ascent in the state legislature, where he became Speaker of the House. He is also largely credited with overseeing the creation of Georgia’s state constitution. Di Vincenzo notes that while John Adams was passing out templates for constitutions to various delegates, the Georgia document had distinct differences from others, suggesting Gwinnett and his colleagues put their own stamp on it.

In early 1777, the President of Georgia, Archibald Bulloch, died suddenly at age 46. Although there was speculation and conspiracy theories regarding poisoning—with some even looking toward Gwinnett—there is no historical proof of foul play. Following Bulloch’s death, the executive council appointed Gwinnett as the acting governor.

The Rivalry with Lachlan McIntosh

As governor, Gwinnett used his power to strike back at his political and personal enemies, most notably the McIntosh family. He had long-standing resentment toward Lachlan McIntosh, who had secured the military positions Gwinnett coveted. Gwinnett ordered the arrest of McIntosh’s brother, George, on charges of treason for allegedly selling rice to the British in Florida.

The tension peaked during a planned military expedition to British Florida. As acting governor, Gwinnett tried to bypass General McIntosh and command the campaign himself, despite having no military rank. He refused to speak with McIntosh and attempted to issue orders to McIntosh’s subordinates. The expedition was a failure, and the two men were eventually called back to Savannah by the legislature for a hearing. During these proceedings, Gwinnett lost his bid for reappointment as governor. Emboldened, McIntosh publicly called Gwinnett a "liar and a scoundrel".

The Fatal Duel

In response to the public insult, Gwinnett challenged McIntosh to a duel. Di Vincenzo highlights the irony of the challenge: McIntosh had grown up with a gun in his hand, as his clan had been brought to Georgia specifically to serve as a military buffer against the Spanish.

The duel took place in a cow pasture on the east side of Savannah in May 1777. The participants stood only 10 to 12 feet apart. Both men fired simultaneously, and both were hit in the leg. Gwinnett’s thigh was broken, and he fell to the ground. McIntosh, also bleeding, reportedly asked if Gwinnett wanted to continue, but the "seconds" intervened to stop the fight. While McIntosh eventually recovered, Gwinnett developed gangrene and died three days later on May 19, 1777, at the age of 42. He was the second signer of the Declaration of Independence to die.

Aftermath and Legacy

Gwinnett’s death did not cool political tensions in Georgia; instead, they intensified. Although dueling was technically illegal, it was a common way for "gentlemen" to settle disputes, and participants were rarely arrested. However, Gwinnett’s radical patriot supporters pushed for McIntosh’s arrest. McIntosh was tried and acquitted but was eventually forced to leave the state, later serving under George Washington at Fort Pitt.

Gwinnett left behind a widow, Ann, and one surviving daughter. Ann wrote to John Hancock multiple times asking for financial support from Congress, claiming her husband had been devoted to the country, but she received nothing. Because of Gwinnett’s massive debts, Ann received very little from his estate—only 50 pounds, a horse, and one enslaved servant. Gwinnett has no direct descendants today, as his only surviving daughter died at 23 without children.

Di Vincenzo concludes that Gwinnett remains an enigma. There are no known portraits of him; any images found online are speculative, and the face on the cover of Di Vincenzo's book is intentionally blurred to reflect this fact. Ultimately, Gwinnett is characterized as a "reluctant" or "apathetic" revolutionary—an opportunist who represented the roughly 35-40% of the colonial population that was largely indifferent to the cause of independence until it served their personal or financial interests.

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Sunday, May 24, 2026

AR-SP50 250th Plans at the National Parks

 

Our May 2026 American Revolution Round Table was joined by four special guests: 

  • Alex Robb, Washington Crossing Historic Park, PA
  • Mark Sirak, Washington Crossing State Park, NJ
  • Mark Turdo, Old Barracks Museum, NJ
  • Will Krakower, Princeton Battlefield State Park, NJ

Each of them shared their preparations for the 250th anniversaries taking place later this year.  Each of their sites have seen major upgrades that will make the anniversary celebrations more memorable, and will also add permanent improvements to the historical sites.

For more details on these events, go to www.tencrucialdays250.org


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Sunday, April 26, 2026

ARSP49 Facing Washington's Crossing, with Seven Bier

American Revolution Round Table - April 2026

Special guest Steven Bier, author of  Facing Washington's Crossing: The Hessians and the Battle of Trenton joined us to discuss the topic of his book.

Introduction and Inspiration 

Mike: Welcome everyone to the American Revolution podcast roundtable. Our special guest is Steven Bier, author of Facing Washington's Crossing: The Hessians and the Battle of Trenton. The book looks at Washington’s crossing from the Hessian perspective and dives into the background of Hesse-Cassel and the Landgrave who ruled it. Steven, what inspired you to write this?

Steven Bier: I originally set out to write about Washington’s crossing, but I couldn't find any new primary material—it had been beat to death. Then the computer almost took over as I discovered documents about the Hessians that were underused or never used. It was an interesting idea, and I decided to write it.

The "Business" of Hesse-Cassel 

Mike: I found it fascinating to learn about Landgrave Frederick II. Most only know he rented his army to King George.

Steven Bier: Hesse-Cassel was a tiny principality about the size of Connecticut with 300,000 subjects. It ended up at a focal point in history because the land was not fertile and money was hard to come by. Even the upper class would have been considered middle class in the colonies. Frederick's great-grandfather began renting out soldiers to make money, and over a hundred years, the "commodity" of Hesse-Cassel became its male citizens.

Mike: It makes sense because maintaining an army was expensive, and renting them out was an interesting way to deal with that conundrum.

Steven Bier: Frederick II was actually an Enlightenment leader who wanted to reform his country. The great irony is that he brought Enlightenment and liberties to his people by selling them off as soldiers to raise the money for it. He was personally involved in every little regulation, much like Winston Churchill. He taxed everything from dogs to butchers and even required newlyweds to plant a certain amount of flowers and trees. He also established social programs, such as a home where pregnant women could leave babies anonymously.

Mike: Life at home seemed miserable—the people were poor, illiterate, and heavily taxed. Were they used to being shipped off to war?

Steven Bier: They were used to it. It was like gravity—it wasn't changing. But this was big money; hundreds of millions in today’s dollars passed from the British to Frederick.

Terminology and Perspective 

Mike: We call them "mercenaries," but you note they referred to themselves as "auxiliaries." Is that accurate?

Steven Bier: Legally, they were auxiliaries under defense pacts. From Frederick’s perspective, it was a business (mercenary), but for the common soldier, they were just doing their job for a regular paycheck. They often had no idea what the fight was about and were shocked when they reached America. They landed in Staten Island and saw walnut trees, wild berries, and farms so prosperous the farmers owned their own carriages and had wallpaper in their homes. They couldn't understand why people in "paradise" would fight against their prince.

The Atlantic Crossing 

Mike: You describe the crossing as a horrific experience.

Steven Bier: It was "miserable with a capital M." These were landlocked farmers who had never seen the ocean; some even thought they could just march to Spain and then to America. They were crammed six to a bunk, and the weather was brutal. During storms, they were battened down in total darkness for days, with everyone vomiting and things flying about. There were even duels on board; one British officer killed a German officer in a duel after an insult.

Key Figures and Records Mike: You focus on individuals like private Johannes Reuber and officers Andreas Wiederhold and Jacob Piel.

Steven Bier: Yes. Wiederhold left extensive writings that I found digitized in German. I used my iPhone to translate them. It’s a perspective from low-level officers and men that has not gotten its due.

Propaganda and Campaigns 

Mike: Once in New York, did they understand the conflict?

Steven Bier: They were manipulated by both sides. British propaganda convinced them the rebels were ungrateful, while American propaganda—starting with the Declaration of Independence—called the Hessians "barbarians". Despite this, the Hessians fought effectively. At Fort Washington, they climbed a steep hillside under heavy fire while Americans threw boulders over the edge. They took the fort so quickly that both armies were literally running for the entrance at the same time.

Mike: You mention that British leadership, like General Howe, often held them back.

Steven Bier: Howe moved at a glacial pace. After capturing Fort Washington, the British did nothing for a week. They chased Washington out of Newark and then sat for two days.

The Road to Trenton 

Mike: At Trenton, Washington famously collected all the boats to freeze the British Empire on the other side of the river.

Steven Bier: Yes, he snatched anything that could float. The British didn't have the "killer instinct" to just build rowboats and cross. Instead, the Hessians were left in miserable outposts while the British officers went back to New York to have parties and plays. The Hessians were exhausted by constant guerrilla attacks, sleeping in their clothes for a week before the battle even started.

The Battle and Its Aftermath 

Mike: And then the storm happened during the Battle of Trenton.

Steven Bier: The storm decided everything. It snowed, hailed, and rained, which "overwhelmed the technology of the age". Andreas Wiederhold stepped out of his picket house and saw movement in the snow; he was standing at the most vulnerable point of the British Empire as the world was about to change.

Mike: Many were taken prisoner and eventually worked on American farms.

Steven Bier: It was a "gentleman’s war" then; Washington even invited captured officers to dinner. Congress sent them to work on farms in German-speaking areas of Pennsylvania and Virginia, hoping they would stay. Surprisingly, about 80% eventually returned to Germany.

The Rothschild Connection 

Mike: You also discovered an interesting connection to the Rothschilds.

Steven Bier: The Rothschild banking empire was partially built on managing the money King George paid to Hesse-Cassel. Mayer Amschel Rothschild gained the trust of Frederick’s son, William, by purposely selling him rare coins at a loss. This relationship allowed Rothschild to eventually manage the state's massive wealth.

Conclusion 

Mike: This book gives a whole new perspective on the New York and New Jersey campaigns.

Steven Bier: Thank you. It was a pleasure discussing this with your group.

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Sunday, April 5, 2026

AR-SP48 America Victorious, with Tom Hand

Our March 2026 American Revolution Round Table invited as our special guest author  Tom Hand.  We discussed his book America Victorious Lesser-Known Campaigns and Commanders That Helped Win American Independence, which focuses on the lesser-known commanders and campaigns of the American Revolution where George Washington was not physically present. Hand’s work aims to broaden the historical perspective of the war by highlighting individuals who made significant contributions that are often overshadowed by the "main players" like Washington, Franklin, and Adams.  These perspectives were covered in his first book, An American Triumph. 

The Northern Theater and the Duality of Benedict Arnold

A major portion of the discussion centers on the early years of the war in the North, specifically the role of Benedict Arnold before his infamous betrayal. Hand argues that if one had to pick an "indispensable man" for the first two years of the war in the northern theater, it would be Arnold. Before his name became synonymous with treason, Arnold was arguably the most successful battlefield commander in the American Revolution.

The conversation details the Quebec campaign, which, despite being a failure in its goal to bring Quebec into the Union, is described as an "incredible human endurance march". Arnold led his men through the Maine wilderness in a brutal trek where they were forced to eat their dogs and shoes to survive. Following the failed siege of Quebec, Arnold commanded the rear guard during the retreat back to American lines, culminating in the Battle of Valcour Island in October 1776.

Hand describes Valcour Island as the "naval Bunker Hill". While it was a tactical defeat, it was strategically one of the most important events of the war. Arnold’s "cobbled-together flotilla" delayed the British fleet under General Carlton for so long—until October 9th—that the British lost their entire 1776 campaign season. By forcing the British to wait until the following year to resume their push south toward Albany, Arnold prevented the colonies from being split early in the war.

The discussion also highlights Arnold’s "single-handed" success at Fort Stanwix, where he used a spy to spread rumors of a massive approaching army, effectively spooking British forces and their Native American allies into retreating. This action deprived General Burgoyne of essential reinforcements before the Battle of Saratoga. Regarding the Saratoga campaign, Hand asserts that Arnold likely disobeyed the spirit of General Horatio Gates’s orders to engage the field, though his aggressive leadership ultimately secured the victory.

The "Forgotten Men" of the North: Schuyler and Morgan

While Arnold and Gates often take the spotlight for Saratoga, Hand emphasizes the critical role of Philip Schuyler. Schuyler practiced a "scorched earth policy" that significantly delayed Burgoyne’s advance through the wilderness. By felling trees, tearing up roads, and diverting rivers to create swamps, Schuyler made every mile of the British march "miserable". These delays exhausted the British provisions and forced them into a desperate situation, laying the groundwork for the eventual American success.

The speakers also examine Daniel Morgan, a "tough frontiersman" who had famously survived 499 lashes from the British army as a teenager. Morgan is credited with the tactical masterpiece at Cowpens, where he utilized a "double envelopment" maneuver. This involved setting his militia in the front lines with orders to fire only a few shots and then "peel off," drawing the British into the steadfast Continentals in the third line. Hand notes that Morgan was a battlefield leader similar to Arnold in his aggressive style, but he remained loyal to the cause despite his own frustrations with Congress regarding promotions.

The Southern Campaign and Nathaniel Greene

Moving to the South, the discussion focuses on Nathaniel Greene, whom Hand calls a "poster child for perseverance". Greene’s strategy followed Washington’s philosophy: the most important objective was not winning specific battles, but keeping the army intact and in the field.

Greene actually lost most of his major battles—including Guilford Courthouse, Hobkirk's Hill, and Eutaw Springs—and failed to raise the siege at Ninety Six. However, his ability to "rise and move on again" after every defeat wore down General Cornwallis. Cornwallis eventually abandoned the Carolinas not because of a battlefield loss, but because he was "tired of chasing him all over the countryside". Hand highlights how Greene adapted Morgan’s Cowpens tactics at Guilford Courthouse, setting up three echelons of troops, though the different terrain meant the result was not a definitive victory like Cowpens. Despite the tactical loss, it was a "pyrrhic victory" for the British that cost Cornwallis dearly and forced his retreat.

George Rogers Clark and the Western Frontier

Hand sheds light on the often-overlooked Western theater, led by George Rogers Clark. At only 23 or 24 years old, Clark raised a small force of 170-180 "stouthearted Virginians" to capture British forts across the Ohio River in what was then considered part of Quebec.

Clark’s capture of Kaskaskia and Vincennes secured the Northwest Territory (modern-day Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois) for the United States. Hand claims this was one of the largest land acquisitions by conquest in American history. The conflict in the West was particularly brutal, described as a "continual" war involving bloody Native American attacks encouraged and armed by the British. These Kentucky settlers faced a higher mortality rate—70 men per thousand—compared to a maximum of 10 per thousand in other colonies.

Spain: The Forgotten Ally

A significant portion of the book and discussion is dedicated to Spain’s role in the revolution. Hand argues that Spain strategically deserves as much, if not more, credit than France. Because Spain was the world’s largest colonial empire, King Carlos III could not openly support a colonial rebellion against another monarch, as it might inspire his own colonies to revolt. Consequently, Spain never formed a formal alliance with the U.S. and fought the British as an independent power.

Spain’s contributions were twofold:

  1. Logistical Support: Merchants like Oliver Pollock in New Orleans used their own fortunes to supply and equip the American army in the West.
  2. Military Diversion: Under Governor Bernardo de Gálvez, Spanish forces captured British bases in the Mississippi Valley, Mobile, and Pensacola.

By driving the British out of West Florida, Spain prevented thousands of British troops from engaging the Americans. Furthermore, at the Treaty of Paris in 1783, the American claim to the Northwest Territory and Florida was supported by the principle of uti possidetis ("as you possess, so you shall possess"). Hand posits that if Spain had not conquered Florida, the British would likely have remained on America’s southern flank, which would have drastically altered the nation's future expansion and access to the Gulf of Mexico.

Leadership and the Legacy of George Washington

Throughout the discussion, George Washington is reaffirmed as the "indispensable man". Despite early military mistakes—such as staying too long in New York or nearly losing his army at Brandywine—Washington’s greatest legacy was his commitment to the civilian command of the military. He demonstrated immense patience in dealing with a difficult Congress and maintained control over an officer corps that frequently included "scoundrels" and rivals like Horatio Gates who sought to undermine him.

Washington is also praised for his ability to identify talent and give commanders second chances. For instance, after Nathaniel Greene "screwed up" the defense of Fort Washington, Washington did not give up on him, eventually trusting him with the critical Southern campaign.

The Tragedy of Benedict Arnold

The conversation concludes by reflecting on the profound nature of Benedict Arnold’s betrayal. Hand notes that the reason Arnold remains the ultimate traitor in American history is that "the fall was so great". He was the top fighter, second only to Washington in importance during the early war. His decision to not only switch sides but to attempt to surrender an entire army of men who were loyal to him is described as "hard to forgive". Hand draws a historical comparison to General George Patton going over to the Germans in 1944 to illustrate the magnitude of the shock Arnold’s actions caused the nation.

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His book is also available on Amazon.

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Sunday, March 1, 2026

AR-SP47 Postal Services in the Revolution, with Steve Kochersperger

Our February Round Table met with Steve Kochersperger, the historian for the United States Postal Service.  We discussed the evolution and logistics of the American mail system during the Revolutionary War era.

What follows is a short summary of our recorded discussions:

Early Colonial Mail and Logistics

Steve Kochersperger
Before a formal intercolonial system existed, mail was handled informally. In 1639, Richard Fairbanks' Tavern in Boston was designated as the first official repository for overseas mail. Early mail delivery was primarily "postage due," meaning the recipient paid for the letter rather than the sender. Costs were determined by the number of sheets of paper rather than weight, and letters were folded and sealed with wax as envelopes did not yet exist.

Postmasters in this era were typically not full-time employees; many were printers or tavern keepers. Printers specifically favored the role because it allowed them to access news from incoming mail before others and gave them a reliable way to distribute their newspapers.

Benjamin Franklin’s Leadership and Dismissal

Benjamin Franklin is credited with professionalizing the colonial mail system. Appointed as Philadelphia’s postmaster in 1737 and eventually Deputy Postmaster General for North America, he made the system profitable for the first time by 1760.

However, political tensions led to his downfall within the British system. Following the Hutchinson letters scandal and the Boston Tea Party, Franklin was dismissed from his royal position in 1774. He famously described his firing as being "too much of an American". Following his dismissal, the Continental Congress established its own postal line in July 1775, appointing Franklin as the first Postmaster General.

The Postal Service as a Tool of Revolution

The postal system was considered "critical infrastructure" for the burgeoning democracy. It played several vital roles:

  • Intelligence and Espionage: Because royal postmasters routinely opened mail to spy on colonists, patriots often used private couriers and express riders (like Paul Revere) for sensitive correspondence. The British also intercepted patriot mail to publish embarrassing letters in newspapers.
  • Information Distribution: To ensure an informed electorate, newspapers were often granted free or discounted passage through the mail, leading to high literacy rates in the colonies.
  • Military Communication: The post office was essential for George Washington to communicate with his army, though the lack of a navy meant the Americans relied almost exclusively on land-based routes while the British controlled the water.

Key Figures and Challenges

The conversation highlights Ebenezer Hazard as the "real hero" of the wartime postal service. Serving as a postmaster for the army and later Postmaster General, Hazard personally traveled post roads to ensure efficiency while also preserving foundational historical documents that became the American State Papers.

The discussion also notes the contributions of women in the postal service, such as:

  • Mary Katherine Goddard: The postmaster of Baltimore who printed the first version of the Declaration of Independence that included all the signatories' names.
  • Anne Clay: A widow who managed the post in Newcastle, Delaware, while raising 15 children.

Structural Differences from Modern Mail

The colonial mail system differed significantly from today's service:

  • No Stamps or Packages: Postage stamps were not introduced until the 1840s, and parcel post (items over four pounds) did not exist until 1913.
  • No Street Addresses: Mail was typically held at the post office for pickup. Street addresses and home delivery did not become standard until the Civil War era.
  • Shortages and Inflation: During the war, paper was in extremely short supply, and rampant inflation made it difficult to pay post riders.
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Sunday, February 1, 2026

AR-SP46 Carl Borick The Revolution in South Carolina

Carl Borick, Director of the University of Charleston Museum in South Carolina joined us for a discussion of South Carolina's role in the Revolutionary War.

We covered the British attack on Fort Sullivan in 1776, Charleston's stand of in 1779, the British Siege of Charleston in 1780, and the events following the Siege.  

The Charleston Museum has a special exhibit called Ringleaders of Rebellion: Charleston in Revolt, 1775-1783.  You can get more details here: https://www.charlestonmuseum.org/exhibits/upcoming/68/ringleaders-of-rebellion

Mr. Borick also has thee books about the War: 


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Sunday, January 4, 2026

AR-SP45 War Without Mercy, with Mark Lender

 Our American Revolution welcomed special guest, Mark Lender , author of War Without Mercy, which challenges the "benign" narrative of the American Revolution by highlighting the extreme brutality and localized violence that the war evoked.

The Concept of Existential Warfare

Lender and his co-author, James Kirby Martin, argue that the American Revolution was an "existential war". Drawing on definitions from military think tanks, they describe this as a struggle for existence itself—as a nation, a people, and as individuals—rather than just status or territory. Because the stakes were so high, the combat often devolved into unlimited ferocity with no room for negotiation or middle ground.

The Breakdown of the "Rules of War"

The sources explain that while European enlightenment philosophers like Emer de Vattel had established rules for "civilized warfare," these often failed during the Revolution.

  • Rebel Status: The British often viewed Americans as treasonous rebels rather than legitimate soldiers, justifying brutal suppression similar to their treatment of the Jacobite rebellion of 1745.
  • Blurring Lines: The distinction between soldier and civilian evaporated, especially in areas far from the oversight of senior military commanders.
  • Cycles of Retaliation: At the local level, particularly in "neutral grounds" like Bergen County, New Jersey, the war became a private cycle of revenge and hanging contests between neighbors.

Group and Regional Experiences

The conversation highlights that the war was not equally violent in all areas but was particularly fierce in "contested" zones like New Jersey and the South.

  • Native Americans: Tribal nations like the Iroquois and Cherokee fought their own existential wars for cultural survival. The Americans responded with "wars of annihilation," such as the Sullivan expedition, which sought to destroy the Indians' ability to sustain themselves by burning their villages and crops.
  • Loyalists: Following the Declaration of Independence, Patriots rebranded Loyalists as rebels, justifying the confiscation of their property and their exile. Lender notes that one in 40 Americans went into exile, a higher proportion than during the French Revolution.

Questions

Participants asked about whether civil wars were inherently more brutal than wars against a foreign country, about how widespread the violence was throughout the country, why prisoners of war were treated so harshly, and about the leadership abilities of Nathanael Greene and Benedict Arnold.

Resources

Get the book War Without Mercy, also available as an audio book or on Kindle.

Learn more about author Mark Edward Lender at his website: markedwardlender.com

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